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[fallen; resources] Gandalf the new Ringlord (But not realy)

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:59 pm
by Qapla
This is a fun deck but it seemed reasonable effective.
The objective was to get all the hobbits in play. One game I just missed one and still had 8 general influence left.
If you have some ideas about this deck, please let me know.

Starting Pool
1 Elwen
1 Annalena
1 Dunlending Spy
1 Gimli
1 Gulla
1 Elladan
1 Elrohir
1 Fori the Beardless

1 Rumour of Rings
1 Shield of Iron-Bound Ash
1 Wizard's Myrmidon
1 Gandalf's Friend
1 Thrall of the Voice

No Resource Deck Type
1 Mistress Lobelia AL
1 Tom Bombadil AL
1 Blue Mountain Dwarves FA
1 Elves of Lindon FA
1 Earth of Galadriel's Orchard IT
1 Fair Gold Ring IT
1 Leaf Brooch IT
1 Palantir of Annuminas IT
2 Precious Gold Ring IT
1 Rebuild the Town PE
2 A Friend of Three SE
2 A Nice Place to Hide SE
2 Concealment SE
2 Dark Tryst SE
1 Longbottom Leaf SE
2 Marvels Told SE
1 Far-Sight SE
2 Ringlore SE
2 Smoke Rings SE
1 Voices of Malice SE
2 Chambers in the Royal Court ST

No. Sideboard Type
1 Bill the Pony AL
1 Hobbits FA
1 Rangers of the North FA
1 A Little Gold Ring IT
1 Dwarven Ring of Durin's Tribe IT
2 Gold Ring that Sauron Fancies IT
1 Magic Ring of Lore IT
1 Magic Ring of Nature IT
2 Magic Ring of Words IT
2 The Oracle's Ring IT
1 The Reviled Ring IT
2 Trifling Ring IT
1 Wizard's Ring IT
1 Allign Palantir PE
1 Hobbit Lore PE
1 Mallorn PE
1 Blind to all Else ST
1 Grey Embasy ST

Characters in Deck
3 Fallen Gandalf
1 Fatty Bolger
1 Folco Boffin
1 Robin Smallburrow
1 Merry
1 Pippin
1 Sam Gamgee
1 Bilbo
1 Frodo

The main idea of the deck is to make Bag End a haven and play Mallorn to untap it. An other possibility is to untap it with the dwarven ring. Mistress Lobelia can get the minion ringes from the discard pile, which are playable at bag end. The palantir is to recycle the ringlores. Gandalf can also tap to test the rings.
I know it's a big combo but it's fun to play.


Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:09 pm
by Jambo
Nice idea! My knowledge of FW is fairly basic but can Mistress Lobelia (hero resource) really be used to retrieve Minion rings?

Mistress Lobelia

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:24 pm
by Qapla
Unique. Manifestation of Lobelia Sackville-Baggins. May only be played at Bag End or Bree. Discard this card if her company moves to any site other than Bree, Old Forest, The White Towers, or a site in The Shire. Tap Mistress Lobelia to search your discard pile or play deck for any one item, ally, or faction playable at her current site. Place the resource in your hand and reshuffle your play deck.

I used her quite a lot in a fallen saruman deck to get half-orcs and greater half orcs, so why no minion items?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:02 am
by Lord Leuber
Maybe you could consider trying to work 1 or 2 copies of Ready to His Will in there, as you're hanging around :F: and :B: quite a lot.

Nice deck btw... IIRC I've already had some questions that led to the birth of this deck... :wink:
I used her quite a lot in a fallen saruman deck to get half-orcs and greater half orcs, so why no minion items?
However, those are stage cards. As I know for a fact that fi Longbottom Leaf can't bring in minion resources (just hero and stage resources), It's pretty likely Lobelia can't be used on minion resources either... :?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:03 am
by karmi
Looks like fun, but:

A minion resource cannot target a hero resource and vice versa, as per White Hand Rules.

After you have played Chambers on Bag End, you cannot play items at there anymore. Pertinent card text: "Nothing is considered playable as written on the site card."

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:52 pm
by Qapla
Too bad for the mistress Lobelia trick.

You can play the minion rings on Bag End, because it's the ring card that states that it can be played on Bag End and not the site.
I am also building a hero deck that plays minion rings on Bag End and since they stay ring items I can use ringlore to convert them to a hero ring (no test is required).


Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:40 pm
by Qapla
I recently read the erata list and found that Mistress Lobelia can get the minion rings from the discard pile. The specific erata says:

White Hand Rules, Playing and Using Resource, Targeting Site and Resource Cards: change both instances of "resource card may not target/affect" to "resource event card may not target/affect."

Since the mistress is an ally and not en event my trick still works. :D