April-May GCCG Tourney (final scores)

[Sly Southerner]

Sorry to drop out guys. I think main the problem is that our clocks changed an hour at the end of summer time (and Northern hemisphere clocks may have done the same) which changes the time difference and makes it very hard to meet up.    :?

Looks like I'll have to play GCCG Tournaments only during the Southern summer!

[Logain]

Sorry Adrian, you're right about clock changes i suppose.

It's complicated to play against you with a rythm of 1 game / week, because indeed if one of us is not available the only possible week-end games become difficult to play (start at midnight in europe for 7:30 am for you, and of course i work the morning after...).

[Jaded]

The further question is: how should we deal with the 4th round, now that only 15 players are available?  I'm willing to take Adrian's spot, but that's probably not fair to his would-be opponent,

Hey after all it's challenge deck tournament, take his place.

[Logain]

I have nothing against an organisator or eben referee playing, after all it's just for fun.

[Gwaihir]

Sorry to drop out guys. [..]

Looks like I'll have to play GCCG Tournaments only during the Southern summer!

That's a real pity. I sure hope you'll find some more local opponents to at least be able to play the whole year round.

I'm going to award his opponent a 6-TP bye.

6 TP, right, but technically that's not a bye as they were already paired up. When someone leaves mid-round he forfeits the match, giving the opponent 6 TPs (or more in case of a One Ring deck). Note that this is a behaviour that should generally be discouraged.

I'm willing to take Adrian's spot, but that's probably not fair to his would-be opponent, so here's what I propose: Adrian's would-be 4th-round opponent will receive a 5-TP bye, and will be invited to play me as well, just for fun, so that he doesn't feel left out.

Hmm.. I think it's better to stick to the tournament policy, as it already handles this type of situation with reasonable elegance.

When someone has dropped out - which one is reasonably free to do between rounds - the new pairings are done without him. The bye will go to one of the players with the lowest score and is 3 TP in round four.

If you would drop in, you would start at 0 TP and thus automatically pair up against the player that would otherwise get the bye. So you could easily and completely fairly offer him to play you instead, if he would like that.

[Zarathustra]

Right, that's what I should have said


And so, without further ado, here are the pairings for the final round (note that things are kinda screwed up because of the drop-out):

Round 4 Pairings:
Gwaihir (with F: Adunaphel) vs. Kees (with K: Ren)
Sauron (with I: Witch-King) vs. Logain (with D1: Radagast)
Romago (with M: Akhorahil) vs. Jose-San (with D2: Radagast)
Beornd (with L: Uvatha) vs. Ringbearer (with J: Indur)
Wacho (with A: Saruman) vs. GOGG (with H: Hoarmurath)
Marcos (with B: Alatar) vs. Jaded (with E1: Gandalf)
Tegarend (with N: Khamul) vs. Baduila (with E2: Gandalf)
Sauron the Great (with G: Dwar) vs. Zarathustra (with C: Pallando) (Note that this game is optional: Sauron the Great can choose to take a 3-TP bye for the round.)


For those interested, here's where people stand in TPs so far:

Round 3 Results:

Gwaihir -- 16
Kees -- 13
Sauron -- 12
Logain -- 12
Romago -- 11
Jose-San -- 11
Beornd -- 11
Ringbearer -- 10
Wacho -- 10
GOGG -- 8
Marcos -- 7
Tegarend -- 7
Jaded -- 5
Sauron the Great -- 3
Baduila -- 2


I'd like to end this round by Friday, 26 May, though if you get the scores to me sooner, I'll post them sooner.

[Sly Southerner]

6 TP, right, but technically that's not a bye as they were already paired up. When someone leaves mid-round he forfeits the match, giving the opponent 6 TPs (or more in case of a One Ring deck). Note that this is a behaviour that should generally be discouraged.

To be pedantic I actually pulled out when we failed to get our match completed on time by the scheduled end of the round, having also had difficulty in earlier rounds. Not that it matters.  :D

[Logain]

Playing tournament games in one week (meaning only one week-end available, only if the one or the other isn't busy) while we have so many different time zones represented (USA - Europe - Autralia) seems too fast to me. Would a 2 weeks delay really be too slow ?

[Baduila]

Sauron the Great (with G: Dwar) vs. Zarathustra (with C: Pallando) (Note that this game is optional: Sauron the Great can choose to take a 3-TP bye for the round.)

Right, just been told I'll be away on business all of next week. If games need to be finished by Friday 26th then I probably can't complete my game so Sauron could face my opponent ??

If we are allowing an extra week between rounds then that will be ok for me to complete my game. Obviously Zara and my opponent have an inout here ????

[Gwaihir]

To be pedantic I actually pulled out when we failed to get our match completed on time by the scheduled end of the round, having also had difficulty in earlier rounds. Not that it matters.  :D

Hey; I meant generally where I wrote that . I don't blame you.

There's a lot of people reading along here sooner or later, so I just thought that when pointing out the policy for such cases, I shouldn't leave out that there's an akward time to drop out (in round - doesn't matter where inside the round) and a reasonably ok one (between rounds - which basically comes down to letting the organiser know when you hand in a rounds score's that you won't play the next).

[Zarathustra]

The only game still to be played is Baduila vs. Tegarend.

Do you guys think you can finish up tomorrow or Sunday?

[Zarathustra]

OK, it seems Baduila and Tegarend are not going to play their last game. &nbsp;Therefore, the results of the tournament are <drumroll>........

Gwaihir - 20
Sauron - 18
Beornd - 17
Jose-San - 17
Wacho - 16
Kees - 15
Marcos - 13
Logain* - 12
Romago - 11
Ringbearer - 10
GOGG - 8
Tegarend* - 7
Sauron the Great* - 6
Sly Southerner* - 6
Jaded - 5
Baduila* - 2


Those players with an * by their name either were unable to play a game or received a bye as a result of Sly Southerner's dropping from the tournament.


Another interesting set of data: the champion DECK. &nbsp;Here's the results for the decks themselves, again, with an * by those that were wounded as a result of the drop-out:


Alatar - 19
Dwar* - 18
Gandalf2 - 16
Pallando* - 15
Saruman - 14
Gandalf1 - 14
Radagast2 - 14
The Witch-King - 13
Uvatha - 12
Hoarmurath - 10
Indur - 9
Khamul* - 8
Radagast1 - 7
Ren - 6
Akhorahil - 6
Adunaphel - 5


As you can see, the new challenge decks aren't quite up to snuff. &nbsp;Khamul would have done much better had he not received byes, and Uvatha is nearly what he needs to be. &nbsp;But the other two need serious improvement! &nbsp;They're almost as bad as Adunaphel!

Those who played with or against the new challenge decks: please post your comments here or on the threads representing the decks themselves. &nbsp;Let me know what you think should be done to fix them (be specific please!).

Finally, congratulations to Gwaihir and to Alatar and Dwar!

[Gwaihir]

As you can see, the new challenge decks aren't quite up to snuff. &nbsp;Khamul would have done much better had he not received byes, and Uvatha is nearly what he needs to be. &nbsp;But the other two need serious improvement! &nbsp;They're almost as bad as Adunaphel!

But they're also just 1 TP away from Radagast1.. In other words: it's interesting, but I wouldn't read overly much into it.

[Wacho]

I think there is certainly some correlation that can be drawn. &nbsp;Although you'd really need more games to make sure. &nbsp;From the results it certainly does seem that the hero decks are better than the minion decks. &nbsp;Aside from Dwar all the minion decks are at the bottom.

[Baduila]

OK I'm back......sorry I missed the last game but was totally out of my control. Was a really interesting tournement and would certainly play in this format again.